Restored: Real Solar Zodiac

Wags wrote:Adding Ophiuchus to the bunch just seems to complicate everything. 12 is a nice, symbolic number. Makes dividing numbers easier, among other things.

I couldn't agree anymore. This is one of the major reasons why I can't take Sidereal seriously. Adding Ophiuchus just doesn't seem right, adding Ophiuchus, kinda of reminds me of the other thread with the elements, the one with Sulpher element (something like that), it just doesn't seem to fit in the puzzle. Other things that doesn't sit well with me in my Sidereal chart.......Aquas moon, the description doesn't fit me at all, and on top of that I feel that I am more Water than Fire......everything about Pisces fits me to a T (okay, maybe I am a little bias of Pisces ) but I honestly do feel more like a Pisces than any other sign.

Wags wrote:Yeah, I feel the same. And I don't know if it's because I'm just used to the original 3 main placements and have grown to like/accept them, or because the sidereal placements truly don't fit me, at least not as much as the tropical placements.

It's just weird. If astro.com calculated right, I'd still be an Aries (I remember seeing Pisces before) but with moon in Aries as well, and Taurus rising. The Aries moon is most off to me. I truly believe Taurus fits best, my tropical placement. The fact that I'm not willing to let go of that placement should say something

You don't come off as Aqua moon either (though how does anyone really "show off"' their moon sign? Still.)

MKing wrote:True True....I think it's just much easier to grasp. We could also be drawn to Tropical more, because it's what we grew up with, and know so well.

I think Taurus moon fits you best, as well. I like that you come across as a level-headed Aries, sort of like my best friend (Aries sun, Taurus moon, Cap Asc). I like how you express your opinions without coming across as pushy or dominating and that's a rare thing with an Aries sun. That's also a reason why me and Aries, have been best friends/brothers since 9 grade. I think having a Taurus moon helps balance out things a bit, since Taurus just so happens to be the warmest of the earth signs.

You know what, Wags? for whatever reason....I always liked Aries moon, behind Pisces/Cancer/Taurus moon, of course. I think our moon side shines through when we are in a emotional state of mind. For me, I think it comes through whenever I am around my ex or my mother, I kinda turn into a little boy for no reason what-so-ever, or whenever I am fired up about something, my emotions just takes over and I let anybody standing in my way have it.......emotions overload.

Wags wrote:
Yes it's much easier to grasp. And it seems like many recent astrologers still use tropical, like in the newspapers and wherever else you find horoscopes. I don't think they do sidereal. I think tropical's been around for much, much longer, and will probably stay that way for a while.

Why thank you, I try anyway. You'd think the sun and moon in those positions would conflict with each other, but looking at other people with those placements, (I think Elton John and Diana Ross have the same signs) they both serve to balance the other out. Taurus moon makes Aries think twice about impulses, and Aries sun helps motivate the lazy moon. There's an enduring quality there too which is probably why your friendship with the Aries lasted long. Not that Arian suns by themselves can't endure, but yeah.

True, Moon in Aries has its plus sides. Yeah, trauma and emotional situations tend to bring out the moon. Do you have moon in Pisces? Pisces moons seem very vague ish to me. Not quite the right word, but... I know of a Capricorn girl who has moon in Pisces, and for the most part she was your standard "cold and calculating" person on the outside. She actually started talking to me about some personal things, but it was in such a... not emotional way? She didn't explode like you, she talked about it and afterwards was like, "everything's okay now. I'm over it. End of discussion" but I KNOW she's got some deeper issues underneath. She just wants to appear strong and "hard-shelled" or something. My mom is similar. Aries sun, Pisces moon. She'll talk about how she feels, sorta... but she doesn't exactly show it. Which makes me mad sometimes, it's like she's a robot. I can't describe it any other way. You don't seem like this though. You seem okay talking about your feelings, which I assume lunar Pisceans will do.

Blah blah, sorry. Going off topic a bit and rambling

It's okay with me, I get carried away myself.

Your moon defiantly helps balance things out a bit, fast paced Aries sun with a slow & steady Taurus moon, it's like you get the best of both worlds. Aries like to dive head first into something new, but with a Taurus moon that kinda of helps you make sure you are diving into the right direction, and not diving into something just to be impulses. For example; Elton and Diana, both made great careers for themselves, they took risks, but they were all risks that eventually paid off in the long run.

I do have Moon in Pisces . I got lucky, because Pisces just so happens to be my favorite sign of the zodiac. See, the thing is with your Cappy friend is........well, for starters, she's a Capricorn, so having a hard and cold exterior sort of comes natural to her. The thing about Caps and Aries (throw in Aquas) they never want to seem defeated. Being vulnerable is something that's just not in there vocabulary, that's why some of the greatest actors, IMO, aren't any of those signs. I was like that before, but I grew out of it, I am became more comfortable with saying how I feel about things. I feel that I am at my most emotional/vulnerable state around people like my mother, ex, brother....because these are the people who has seen me at my lowest of low, or who knows me inside and out. I am not really sure how your mother and Cap friend charts may appear, but mine is dominated by water, so that's pretty self-explanatory, so it didn't really take me long to become more expressive LOL.

Your mother's behavior puts me in mind of my father.......the whole robotic thing is right up his alley. He is not really cold or anything like that, but he can be quite the actor, he's what you call "a HAM", and because he's been this way for so many years, it's hard to distinguish who the real character is. I believe you mentioned something like this back on the old forum about your mother's behavior, no?

Dinny wrote:If you guys are still on about Tropical, can you explain why it's more valid, considering, for example, the sun was actually in the constellation of Leo when Dr. ARM was born? Or in Libra when Papi was born? It confuses me, even though almost no-one I know (learned astrologers for instance) uses it, even though it should be technically right.

Dinny wrote:If you guys are still on about Tropical, can you explain why it's more valid, considering, for example, the sun was actually in the constellation of Leo when Dr. ARM was born? Or in Libra when Papi was born? It confuses me, even though almost no-one I know (learned astrologers for instance) uses it, even though it should be technically right.